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More to the point, women's expectations have been heightened to the point of holding out for Mr. Right. Raising expectations has had three effects on our society which have harmed everybody's ability to find lasting happiness and certainly harmed our desire and ability to meet and marry for life.
1. On men, the expectation of men to act more civil, more caring, more (you name the effeminate trait) has reduced the perception of men's value in themselves as well as in society at large.
2. On women who do marry, many of their marriages suffer because of the unmet expectations of men and so find much less happiness in their relationships. There's a whole chapter in Dennis' book (Happiness is a Serious Problem) on the detrimental effects of unmet expectations.
3. On women who opt for career over family, The ultimate lack of fulfillment so many have found in successful careers.
This brings me to the point of my article here. I am not Mr. Right and I'm certainly not Mr. Perfect. I AM Mr. Good Enough. I have maintained a steady job nearly my entire working life, I have long term relationships with deep emotional commitment, I have bought into the standard of morals that have stood the test of thousands of years known as Christianity, I have a joyous spirit, and I've been through a recovery program to deal with the baggage life has a habit of saddling us with. I still have faults, but I am working to improve myself and will continue that work until the day God calls me home.
So, just three little tidbits of advice to all the lovely ladies. 1. Reject the idea that you can have it all. You'll wear yourself out trying to get it and generally hurt everyone in your life by investing yourself too thin in each endeavor.
2. As much as you want what you want from your man, realize that he isn't a harry woman who should think, feel, and act like you would. Honestly, we don't even feel emotions in the same parts of our bodies. We are that kind of different, so are our needs, desires, and appreciation.
3. The man in your life that best meets the basic needs for a lifelong relationship is probably the best overall option for you. Mr. Perfect is the guy in romance novels usually written by women lost in fantasy. Romance novels are to women the equivalent of porn to men in that it further strengthens those unrealistic expectations. Mr. Right is awfully close to Mr. Perfect. He is expected to sweep you off your feet and win your eternal respect and foist upon you his eternal love. Reality is all relationships struggle at times. (Struggle; to fight for its life) Mr. Good Enough is the guy that you feel makes your life better more than he makes it worse and believes the same about you in his life.
That's my judgment.
EclecticWoman: 42F | bisexual | Nipomo, California, United States
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DO NOT SETTLE. EVER. Wait until you find what you want. What is important to you is what you should have. Not everyone is looking for a "Fabio" with a buttload of money. Some of us are looking for someone that we love because we love THEM regardless of their bank account, or their 6-pack abs. That stuff is completely temporary. Heart, Soul, Character, Personality, these things stay. I was nearly married many times. And I waited until I was almost 40, as I saw many of my friends entering their 2nd 3rd or 4th Marriages. One of my Cousins on my Mom's side (The Puerto Rican Side) has a daughter, my second cousin once removed and she has been married 3 times. Blanca (my second cousin). Said to me, "You were smart to wait. I wish _____(her daughter) had done the same.
Yeah, this Post is about as helpful as that book, "The Rules"
CountessM: 40F | bisexual | San Diego, California, United States
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cricketsmack: 27F | straight | Florissant, Missouri, United States
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bluemayfly: 45F | straight | Steptoe, Washington, United States
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EclecticWoman: 42F | bisexual | Nipomo, California, United States
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Last time I checked civility and care were not effeminate traits. I think that you are dreadfully wrong on this point and would love to see some facts supporting it.
On women who do marry, many of their marriages suffer because of the unmet expectations of men and so find much less happiness in their relationships. There's a whole chapter in Dennis' book (Happiness is a Serious Problem) on the detrimental effects of unmet expectations.
It seems to me that this also supports the idea that women should not settle. Have you ever *tried* lowering your expectations? I seriously doubt that any woman could say -I guess he will do- and not regret that decision or resent him later.
On women who opt for career over family, The ultimate lack of fulfillment so many have found in successful careers.
My mother worked on her career and my father stayed home with us as a full-time parent and I have never heard either parent truly regret these decisions. My mother is happy with her career and has her family, just not in the -I made you dinner for thirty years- way. I think you are ridiculous to suggest that you know what will make every woman happy.
This brings me to the point of my article here. I am not Mr. Right and I'm certainly not Mr. Perfect. I AM Mr. Good Enough.
And now we do get to the point. I think you should change your standards to include me. I really could have done without all of the rest.
Reject the idea that you can have it all. You'll wear yourself out trying to get it and generally hurt everyone in your life by investing yourself too thin in each endeavor.
I can decide what priority I place on each aspect of my life, and putting a higher priority on one aspect does not mean I have to give up the others entirely. I think you are confused.
As much as you want what you want from your man, realize that he isn't a harry woman who should think, feel, and act like you would. Honestly, we don't even feel emotions in the same parts of our bodies. We are that kind of different, so are our needs, desires, and appreciation.
Speaking for all men is always a bad idea. No one likes broad generalizations. heh.
The man in your life that best meets the basic needs for a lifelong relationship is probably the best overall option for you.
I dont see how this excludes the idea of someone being absolutely right for me.
Mr. Good Enough is the guy that you feel makes your life better more than he makes it worse and believes the same about you in his life.
Entering a relationship with the idea that there will never be problems is naive, but entering a relationship because someone is -good enough- is just as naive. At some point, you will regret the fact that you decided to settle for someone. I can have my Mr. Right while still understanding that Mr. Right doesnt mean Mr. and Mrs. No Problems.
Thats my judgment.
cricketsmack: 27F | straight | Florissant, Missouri, United States
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summary: I think you should change your standards to include me.
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cricketsmack: 27F | straight | Florissant, Missouri, United States
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CountessM: 40F | bisexual | San Diego, California, United States
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Diacritic: 29M | bisexual | Indianapolis, Indiana, United States
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misterguitar816: 35M | straight | Raleigh, North Carolina, United States
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If I were a woman, I would settle for him <3
onehalfspin: 27M | straight | Ann Arbor, Michigan, United States
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There is no evidence that women are going to leave the workforce in any great numbers. A recent Pew survey showed that most women with families wanted to work, although many of those in both full-time work and full-time at home would prefer part-time work. I suspect this is in part due to the difficulties in achieving some balance in the face of the family-unfriendly work policies in the US, and men's inability to adapt to the changes in the family.
When there is talk of compromise, it always seems to be women who are being asked to compromise. They already compromise by doing most of the household chores in most families. Can't men compromise? What about the recent report that showed that women were turned on by men doing housework?
harpy61: 47F | straight | Chicago, Illinois, United States
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cyranocoyote: 39M | straight | Mountain View, California, United States
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cricketsmack: 27F | straight | Florissant, Missouri, United States
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JudgeRight: 48M | straight | Tustin, California, United States
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JudgeRight: 48M | straight | Tustin, California, United States
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Baruch, Biener and Barnett "Women and Gender in Research on Work and Family Stress" American Psychologist 42 (1987).
Spitz, "Women's Emploment and Family Relations: A Review" Journal of Marriage and the Family 50 (1988)
Repetti, Matthews and Waldron, "Employment and Women's Health: Effects of Paid Employment on Women's Mental and Physical Health," American Pyschologist 44 (1989)
harpy61: 47F | straight | Chicago, Illinois, United States
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bluemayfly: 45F | straight | Steptoe, Washington, United States
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I also think you are chock full of shit.
And...that's my judgment for this evening.
Oh, and BTW OP you look like my Neighbor, Robert who is gay, and is really nice and brings us cookies all the time. Poor Robert.
CountessM: 40F | bisexual | San Diego, California, United States
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Part of the problem is that America hates families, pretty much. 12 weeks statutory UNPAID maternity leave? Puhleez. No statutory paid vacations? Higher average working hours that any other developed industrial country? Pitiful minimum wage, so that poor people have to work multiple jobs (if they can find them)? Americans work an extra 9 weeks per year (350 hours) compared to Europeans. No wonder it's hard for people to balance work and a family. And having one partner stay home with kids is not viable for many families financially, even if one partner wanted to do so (which is a minority of people anyway, as the Pew study I mentioned demonstrated).
harpy61: 47F | straight | Chicago, Illinois, United States
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sg2292: 47M | straight | Waldwick, New Jersey, United States
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sweetbriar32: 36F | straight | Phoenix, Arizona, United States
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sweetbriar Good find. I think she has it right. Personally, I've never wanted a husband. Would I like to find a great long-term partner? Damn right. Am I unhappy being single? No. I know I can be single and happy, and this means that I can afford to be choosy and look for someone who enhances my life, not settle for someone who doesn't make me feel warm and tingly. I don't expect Mr Perfect by anyone else's standards, and my wishlist is probably very different from a lot of folks. I've never wanted children, and don't need a 'provider'. But the old 'free union' term 'companion' seems very attractive to me. It doesn't have connotations of settling, but of someone who is there by your side, as you are by his, someone who is on your team.
When I think of two of my oldest friends, one has been with her husband (her second one as it goes) for 20 years, they love each other, still fancy the pants off each other, work as a team and are raising two great kids. They didn't settle, but they do know that you need to continue to love, respect and support your spouse, and communicate.
Another friend stays with her partner because she got pregnant. She's miserable. They don't get on, really, don't share a bed even. She keeps house, he works but pays her little attention. All they share is their son. I wouldn't want that kind of relationship.
If I'm single the rest of my life, I'll still be happy. My aunt has been single all her life, she's had an interesting and rewarding life, and still does in her late 70s. She's a wonderful person, and has good friends. She's not lonely. She has surrogate grandchildren (my niece and nephew). If you are a good, interesting and kind person you will never be short of friends. And unlike a husband you don't really care for, you can shut the door on them if you need some time alone.
Finally, I think one of the big issues in relationships these days is that some men are so lacking in confidence that they think if women don't need men, they won't want them. I don't need a paycheck or a protector. At a pinch, I don't need a penis, either. But I do want a man, a companion, a lover, even, yes, a soulmate. A tall order? Maybe, but worth hanging on for.

harpy61: 47F | straight | Chicago, Illinois, United StatesYesterday - 8:15am - 0% match, 0% friend, 0% enemy